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and in michigan, in particular, the nra had wanted to make sure that the permit system in michigan was abolished for buying handguns and so i think that things are being done. remember, all of these actions happened prior to friday and what happened in newtown. i am telling you that i am absolutely hopeful and i think things are different. i hear that in the news. >> you bring up the nra. let's play what michael bloomberg. >> nra's number one objective this time was to defeat barack obama for a second term. last time i checked the election results he won and won comfortably. this myth that the nra can destroy political careers is just not true. we won four out of seven -- four out of seven where the nra supported every one of the four and we won with a small amount of money. there is this myth that the nra is so powerful, you go back to what happened back when the democrats lost after the assault weapons ban. i don't know that the two are connected then but today the nra's power is so vastly overrated. the public when you do the polls, they want to stop this carnage. >> and david, toda
and in michigan, in particular, the nra had wanted to make sure that the permit system in michigan was abolished for buying handguns and so i think that things are being done. remember, all of these actions happened prior to friday and what happened in newtown. i am telling you that i am absolutely hopeful and i think things are different. i hear that in the news. >> you bring up the nra. let's play what michael bloomberg. >> nra's number one objective this time was to defeat barack...
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and, indeed, the governor of michigan, rick snyder, has pledged to take a close look at legislation that would allow concealed weapons in schools and churches. will that save us from the kind of tragedy we had on friday? >> we work with survivors of gun violence every day. we just had, as you saw, many of them in to city hall to meet with mayor bloomberg. one is steve barton who was in the theater in aurora more a gunman killed so many people and his view is parallel to what you hear from law enforcement experts who are trained to use firearms who say there is no way in a confused situation on the street, in a theater, in a school that more firearms in the hands of more people makes you any safer, particularly because they're far less likely to be well-trained in their use than the police. >> goldie, you have handled serious firearms in your former life as a marine. is there any possible justification for a citizen to have access to semiautomatic weapons like a bushmaster and a magazine that can hold 30 rounds? what possible sporting justification is there for that? >> there is none. if
and, indeed, the governor of michigan, rick snyder, has pledged to take a close look at legislation that would allow concealed weapons in schools and churches. will that save us from the kind of tragedy we had on friday? >> we work with survivors of gun violence every day. we just had, as you saw, many of them in to city hall to meet with mayor bloomberg. one is steve barton who was in the theater in aurora more a gunman killed so many people and his view is parallel to what you hear from...
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teens died at the school shooting in michigan. and five children were gunned down at a amish school in pennsylvania. but here is the most stunning number of them all. there have been 181 major school shootings in the united states since the columbine massacre. 181 shootings where students were either wounded or killed. many of the school shootings involved teenagers. in los angeles last year, a teenager snuck a loaded beretta into class. the gun went off and wounded two other students. but young children are victims too. in houston last year, a 6-year-old took a loaded handgun to school. the gun went off. three kids were wounded. many in this country say enough is enough. i'm joined tonight by congressman keith ellison of minnesota and msnbc political analyst and georgetown university professor michael eric dyson. gentlemen, thank you for your time tonight. i'll have an open question to both of you. professor, we'll go with you first. we talk about change in society. what does it take for us to change what we are seeing unfold bef
teens died at the school shooting in michigan. and five children were gunned down at a amish school in pennsylvania. but here is the most stunning number of them all. there have been 181 major school shootings in the united states since the columbine massacre. 181 shootings where students were either wounded or killed. many of the school shootings involved teenagers. in los angeles last year, a teenager snuck a loaded beretta into class. the gun went off and wounded two other students. but...
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i know that's true in ohio and michigan, states like that. we have another person here, collin, thank you for joining us. you were at virginia tech, you were a survivor down there and i'm glad you were. here you are. a lot of people in the gun ownership side, the second amendment people, the zealots, say if a bunch of people have guns they could shoot this guy down when he walked in the door. i can imagine what we will hear in the days ahead. if some of the school officials had been armed, they could have stopped him before he got to the kids. your thoughts. >> you will be hearing it but i don't quite understand it. we are the most armed country in the modern world, and we have the most problems with gun violence. you know, i mean, if more guns solved our problems, then we'd be the safest country already. that's not it. you know, the conversation that we're having now, the conversation that the vast majority of americans are having is the reasonable middle ground. is the background checks on all gun sales. that's something gun owners and nra
i know that's true in ohio and michigan, states like that. we have another person here, collin, thank you for joining us. you were at virginia tech, you were a survivor down there and i'm glad you were. here you are. a lot of people in the gun ownership side, the second amendment people, the zealots, say if a bunch of people have guns they could shoot this guy down when he walked in the door. i can imagine what we will hear in the days ahead. if some of the school officials had been armed, they...
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. >> joining me now is michigan congressman mike rogers, chairman of the house permanent select committee on intelligence. mr. chairman, thank you very much for joining us. >> thank you. >> you've seen the report, benghazi. what went wrong? >> oh, boy. it was a whole series of things, andrea. so the information that surrounded the special mission there, there was some 200 ports leading up to it that talked about this security situation deteriorating, and they knew it, and so the folks there at the special mission were asking for help and asking for higher security. we know that tripoli asked. the report said they didn't ask hard enough. it's really not their responsibility. so what happened was they had all this information, and they processed it through the state department, and that leadership just failed to note the security around that -- around the ambassador when he traveled to benghazi, and a security of the special mission. not that they had to have it as a standard mission security status because it was a temporary facility, but the physical security part of it was just so wrong
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michigan governor rick snyder saw republicans in his state legislature pass a bill to allow guns in schools and day care centers. the bill was passed one day before the tragedy in newtown, connecticut. today the republican governor vetoed the bill. according to the detroit news, snyder vetoed the bill because it wouldn't allow schools and other public locations to opt out of its provisions. in the past 24 hours, republican members of congress said that some gun restrictions are worth looking into. senator susan collins of maine, congressman charlie dent of pennsylvania and lindsey graham of south carolina, they are all pro-gun. they are all open to looking at gun control solutions. there is also congressman jack kingston of georgia. in the past, this gentleman has voted to cut down the waiting period, the number of days for gun purchases. he vetoed -- or should i say he voted for broader concealed to carry weapons laws. the nra gave kingston an "a" rating for his voting record today. today this staunch advocate opened the door for change. >> we see a huge problem like this, and it's a probl
michigan governor rick snyder saw republicans in his state legislature pass a bill to allow guns in schools and day care centers. the bill was passed one day before the tragedy in newtown, connecticut. today the republican governor vetoed the bill. according to the detroit news, snyder vetoed the bill because it wouldn't allow schools and other public locations to opt out of its provisions. in the past 24 hours, republican members of congress said that some gun restrictions are worth looking...
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last night michigan passed a law making it legal to carry a concealed weapon in a church, in a school, in a daycare center and they also abolished the local county boards that were in charge of supervising the permits that do go out. so we've got these well-funded lobbies, these well-funded efforts to keep politicians on a short leash when it comes to any kind of common sense gun control, and so it's going to take a lot of courage on the part of the president but not just the president, everyone in congress and not just democrats, the nation. >> karen, you've worked previously for the new york education department. give us your perspective on a school like this because, as i understand it, most schools are accessible until about 9:00 a.m., quarter past 9:00, and then the access is closed. yet this individual or indeed the school made the 911 call just after 9:30. >> i'm sure we'll learn more about there was some speculation that perhaps this individual may have taught at the school or had some kind of access to the school. and i also heard reported there were new school safety measure
last night michigan passed a law making it legal to carry a concealed weapon in a church, in a school, in a daycare center and they also abolished the local county boards that were in charge of supervising the permits that do go out. so we've got these well-funded lobbies, these well-funded efforts to keep politicians on a short leash when it comes to any kind of common sense gun control, and so it's going to take a lot of courage on the part of the president but not just the president,...
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heavy snow snarled on the ground, and thousands in michigan are still without power. flights were delayed or canceled on friday. gabe gutierrez is at hartsfield international airport in atlanta. is the situation better? >> reporter: well, richard, yes, it is. it could be a whole lot worse in many of the country's airports in atlanta. if you take a look behind me, there is some traffic and for the most part it's moving along and many airports throughout the country not reporting many delays and there's a 15-minute delay in newark and not a huge problem. san francisco reported a bigger delay today due to rain. as we look at video from other parts of the country, from st. louis and from kansas city, there's not much of a problem there. there are some long lines and for the most part travelers have gotten to where they needed to go. there are other problems, however, in the northeast and places like upstate new york, virginia and pennsylvania. snow has snarled traffic there and there is some concern that on the west coast, as well, there could be issues. for the most part
heavy snow snarled on the ground, and thousands in michigan are still without power. flights were delayed or canceled on friday. gabe gutierrez is at hartsfield international airport in atlanta. is the situation better? >> reporter: well, richard, yes, it is. it could be a whole lot worse in many of the country's airports in atlanta. if you take a look behind me, there is some traffic and for the most part it's moving along and many airports throughout the country not reporting many...
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and up in michigan, numerous areas of snow. as far as the big cities go with the heavy rain threat, with the strong gusty winds, from now until about 11:00 is when the strongest winds will be moving through philadelphia, new york city, newark and then up into connecticut. so we're going to get the damage winds and the worst of it from now until 11:00 a.m. then the rain will be gone and it will just be windy the rest of the afternoon. highest wind gusts toward louisville and indianapolis. we're waiting for the highest winds around the tri-state in new jersey, new york and connecticut. western new york will get some snow. that's mostly lake enhanced snow on the back side of this storm later on today into tonight. tomorrow, new york state throughway will be rough and driving through west virginia will be tough. today, by far, hands down, the worst of the travel weather. the worst airport delays. if you can avoid traveling today, do so with ease as we go throughout your saturday and your sunday. much of the country looks just fine
and up in michigan, numerous areas of snow. as far as the big cities go with the heavy rain threat, with the strong gusty winds, from now until about 11:00 is when the strongest winds will be moving through philadelphia, new york city, newark and then up into connecticut. so we're going to get the damage winds and the worst of it from now until 11:00 a.m. then the rain will be gone and it will just be windy the rest of the afternoon. highest wind gusts toward louisville and indianapolis. we're...
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i'll take you back to a report february 29, 2000, in flint, michigan. there a 6-year-old boy brought a gun to buelle elementary school in mount morris township. he killed his first grade classmate kayla roland. that's in flint, michigan. i'll take you back to 1979. san diego, california. fortunately, there, alex, brenda spentser, at the time, 16, pulled out a .22 caliber rifle from her family's house across the vietnam and said after she had shot some students, i just don't like mondays. this is really a tough and emotional story to watch when we listen to some of the children what they have to say here, alex. we think of these places as safe havens, and, unfortunately, today it was not. >> nbc's -- nbc -- msnbc's richard lui. chelg -- i don't know what the word is to describe this. horrifying, chilling, a moment of national tragedy. you know, the culture -- we talk about violence. it's not something that is just happening in schools. it's not something that's just happening 234 movie theaters. we were talking during the break about violence that's happ
i'll take you back to a report february 29, 2000, in flint, michigan. there a 6-year-old boy brought a gun to buelle elementary school in mount morris township. he killed his first grade classmate kayla roland. that's in flint, michigan. i'll take you back to 1979. san diego, california. fortunately, there, alex, brenda spentser, at the time, 16, pulled out a .22 caliber rifle from her family's house across the vietnam and said after she had shot some students, i just don't like mondays. this...
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president of the brady campaign to prevent gun violence and the attorney for the michigan coalition for responsible gun owners. i want your reaction, first of all, dan gross, what do you make of how the president said, and how serious do you think he is about actually doing something rather than just words? >> we're inspired. i mean, we're inspired to take him at his word. the president, since this has happened, has called for meaningful action. he's saying all the right things, and he's talking about all the right things. it's up to us, the american public now, including all the victims that have been impacted by these tragedies, to make sure he does take that action. those are the dots that need to be connected. this is the time. change has to happen. and this really is a pivotal moment in the history of this issue, and you can just sense it watching this tonight and seeing how that community is grieving and knowing how our whole nation is grieving. we do think this is a time for change and we do think president obama is going to lead us in the right direction. >> steve, the nature of
president of the brady campaign to prevent gun violence and the attorney for the michigan coalition for responsible gun owners. i want your reaction, first of all, dan gross, what do you make of how the president said, and how serious do you think he is about actually doing something rather than just words? >> we're inspired. i mean, we're inspired to take him at his word. the president, since this has happened, has called for meaningful action. he's saying all the right things, and he's...
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and filmmaker from michigan, michigan native michael moore is here with reaction to governor snyder's move and how he plans to fight back. stay tuned. >>> welcome back to "the ed >>> welcome back to "the ed show." thanks for watching tonight. i tell you, it's a full-time job wading through the lies op michigan's right to work law. here's governor rick snyder offering one of the biggest reasons for supporting the law. >> indiana's had a strong experience. they've done similar legislation back in february. they've seen thousands of jobs come to indiana. and those jobs could also come to michigan. >> and when you look at indiana and see what they've achieved since february when they did similar legislation, they've gotten thousands of jobs coming to indiana because of this issue. >> all you have to do is look to indiana. and as soon as they did this legislation, thousands of jobs have come to indiana since that time frame. >> we're losing a major competitive advantage. indiana has become a right to work state. and i've looked at their pipeline. they've significantly increased the number
and filmmaker from michigan, michigan native michael moore is here with reaction to governor snyder's move and how he plans to fight back. stay tuned. >>> welcome back to "the ed >>> welcome back to "the ed show." thanks for watching tonight. i tell you, it's a full-time job wading through the lies op michigan's right to work law. here's governor rick snyder offering one of the biggest reasons for supporting the law. >> indiana's had a strong experience....
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the attorney for the michigan and responsible gun owners. let's start with you. you were pretty outspoken saying this is time to bring in new gun control laws. >> yes. if this doesn't wake us up, i don't know what will. i was heartened that the president said we had to take meaningful action and the only thing he can do is lead a crusade for reasonable gun control legislation in congress. these massacres are taking place more and more often. we saw, by the way, today, a very similar incident in china where a mad man attacked an elementary school in china with a knife. 22 injured children. injured, not dead. that's the difference. in the united states we have 9,000 people killed with guns last year in similar countries like germany, 170 and canada 150. there is a reason for that. >> what would you like to see in terms of specific gun control? >> there a number of pieces of legislation we have been pushing. no reasonable gun owner who is a sportsman can object to bans on assault weapons made only to kill as many human beings as possible like in a military situation
the attorney for the michigan and responsible gun owners. let's start with you. you were pretty outspoken saying this is time to bring in new gun control laws. >> yes. if this doesn't wake us up, i don't know what will. i was heartened that the president said we had to take meaningful action and the only thing he can do is lead a crusade for reasonable gun control legislation in congress. these massacres are taking place more and more often. we saw, by the way, today, a very similar...
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the scene in michigan today looked familiar. it looked like the scenes in indiana and in ohio and in wisconsin where those states voted to take away the rights of unions. in fact, it was exactly that kind of scene michigan governor rick snyder, a republican, had said he wanted to avoid. in february, governor snyder looked at those other midwestern states with republican governors and workers protesting in the state capital and decided he did not want that thing in michigan, not in his historically very strong union state. governor snyder said, "you look at now that they've had those things happen, do they have a productive environment to solve problems? not necessarily. they're still overcoming the divisiveness, the hard feelings from all of that." at the time reporters wanted to know whether rick snyder would support what is known as a right to work law. the idea of right to work is simple. under a right to work law, employees of a union shop don't have to pay union dues. the employees get the benefit of the union, the higher w
the scene in michigan today looked familiar. it looked like the scenes in indiana and in ohio and in wisconsin where those states voted to take away the rights of unions. in fact, it was exactly that kind of scene michigan governor rick snyder, a republican, had said he wanted to avoid. in february, governor snyder looked at those other midwestern states with republican governors and workers protesting in the state capital and decided he did not want that thing in michigan, not in his...
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topping the agenda this hour, breaking news out of michigan. the fight coming to a head over that state's right to work law as thousands of protesters swarched the state capital. union supporters are rallying around the capital building itself in lansing as gop lawmakers from both state houses vote on a bill that would significantly weaken union rights in a state considered one of the cradles of the labor movement. the law prohibits workers from being required to pay union dues as a condition of employment. republican governor schneider saying that he'll sign that bill right away making michigan the 24th state with the right to work. >>> yesterday president obama joined the chorus of voices condemning this move. >> by the way, what we shouldn't do, i just got to say this, what we shouldn't be doing is taking away your right to bargain for better wages. giving you the right to work for less money. >> nbc is live from lansing, michigan, and from detroit i'm joined by michigan democratic congressman gary peters. ron, i'm going to start with you. d
topping the agenda this hour, breaking news out of michigan. the fight coming to a head over that state's right to work law as thousands of protesters swarched the state capital. union supporters are rallying around the capital building itself in lansing as gop lawmakers from both state houses vote on a bill that would significantly weaken union rights in a state considered one of the cradles of the labor movement. the law prohibits workers from being required to pay union dues as a condition...
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and filmmaker from michigan, michigan native michael moore is here with reaction to governor snyder's move and how he plans to fight back. stay tuned. copd makes it hard to breathe, but with advair, i'm breathing better. so now i can be in the scene. advair is clinically proven to help significantly improve lung function. unlike most copd medications, advair contains both an anti-inflammatory and a long-acting bronchodilator working together to help improve your lung function all day. advair won't replace fast-acting inhalers for sudden symptoms and should not be used more than twice a day. people with copd taking advair may have a higher chance of pneumonia. advair may increase your risk of osteoporosis and some eye problems. tell your doctor if you have a heart condition or high blood pressure before taking advair. if you're still having difficulty breathing, ask your doctor if including advair could help improve your lung function. get your first full prescription free and save on refills at advaircopd.com. >>> welcome back to "the ed show." thanks for watching tonight. i tell you,
and filmmaker from michigan, michigan native michael moore is here with reaction to governor snyder's move and how he plans to fight back. stay tuned. copd makes it hard to breathe, but with advair, i'm breathing better. so now i can be in the scene. advair is clinically proven to help significantly improve lung function. unlike most copd medications, advair contains both an anti-inflammatory and a long-acting bronchodilator working together to help improve your lung function all day. advair...
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joining us now from lansing, michigan, the republican governor of michigan, governor rick snyder. the issue at hand, the lead story, and that's the right-to-work legislation. you say it's going to lead to more and better jobs for people in the state of michigan. how? >> well, it will. if you look at -- you just need to look to indiana which passed similar legislation back in february. and the track record's clear. they've had a lot of companies come to indiana and making that one of their decisions to look to indiana. in fact, they've had 31 different companies accept offers from the indiana economic development corporation since that time that are accounting for thousands of jobs. so it's clear that companies are now coming to indiana that previously didn't have them on the list. so it will lead to more and better jobs, and that will happen here in michigan as well. but this legislation was primarily about being pro-worker, about giving workers freedom of choice. but the second added benefit is this jobs effect. >> i'm not sure they're going to appeal that way. >> governor, you h
joining us now from lansing, michigan, the republican governor of michigan, governor rick snyder. the issue at hand, the lead story, and that's the right-to-work legislation. you say it's going to lead to more and better jobs for people in the state of michigan. how? >> well, it will. if you look at -- you just need to look to indiana which passed similar legislation back in february. and the track record's clear. they've had a lot of companies come to indiana and making that one of their...
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this fight is not over. >> we are going to get to michigan in a moment. first we want to bring in today's political power panel and dig in on the big topics of the day. msnbc contributor joy ann reid, also managing editor for the grio. msnbc contributor ari melber, correspondent for the nation and republican strategist alice stewart. great to see all three of you. joy ann, moments ago, boehner saying the sides are far apart. the cliff 20 days away. the posturing continues with the presidential politics and the president saying this is going to happen. so why can't these two men meet in the middle? >> it's interesting, because you're hearing in the public pronouncements almost no movement. the president reportedly lowered his target on tax, you know, revenue from 1.6 to 1.4. boehner stayed exactly the same, 800 billion. they are differing on how to get there. they are still saying the same things they have always been saying but then you have other reports in the "wall street journal" and bloomberg that behind the scenes the staffs are talking real numbers
this fight is not over. >> we are going to get to michigan in a moment. first we want to bring in today's political power panel and dig in on the big topics of the day. msnbc contributor joy ann reid, also managing editor for the grio. msnbc contributor ari melber, correspondent for the nation and republican strategist alice stewart. great to see all three of you. joy ann, moments ago, boehner saying the sides are far apart. the cliff 20 days away. the posturing continues with the...
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this is to move michigan forward. about more and better jobs and worker choice. >> thank you very much, governor. thanks for joining us on a busy day. obviously there on the capitol. we really appreciate it. >> thank you. >>> joining me in the studio for her take on what we've just heard from governor snyder and also the current state of the fiscal cliff negotiations in washington is our colleague and friend ruth marcus from "the washington post." columnist for "the washington post." ruth, this whole issue in the midwest, this used to be most likely in the southern states, but this really is moving, and we're seeing a real decline in union household membership about half what it was 40 years ago. it used to be 24%. now it's 11.8%. >> unions are reeling, and the more states that enact measures like this, the more unions will be reeling. their penetration, the private sector is something like 7% of the private sector work force is unionized, and i have to say -- i don't use words like this very often, i thought some of
this is to move michigan forward. about more and better jobs and worker choice. >> thank you very much, governor. thanks for joining us on a busy day. obviously there on the capitol. we really appreciate it. >> thank you. >>> joining me in the studio for her take on what we've just heard from governor snyder and also the current state of the fiscal cliff negotiations in washington is our colleague and friend ruth marcus from "the washington post." columnist for...
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the michigan polls show this is a winner for people who with unions. the governors ratings are very mediocre. majority say that after they hear both sides, they are against right to work and 80% say this is not -- this shouldn't be a priority at all. actually, more say they're going to hold it against legislators for voting for it than reward them for it. >> we know what we will be talking about in 2014 in the midwest. we have that clear. we know what this will be about. >> we already had a debate about this early in the year. scott walker -- >> he sort of -- >> it's hard to say the union people will have to be worried right now. >> it does feel as if when this moves, it moves. the question is, can they calibrate on another policy. we asked in the last 100 years how many presidents were elected after serving in the house, but not in the senate. there's just one. president george h.w. bush was a congressman for texas, unsuccessful candidate for the united states senate. then of course he was u.n. ambassador, cia director and vice president before he was
the michigan polls show this is a winner for people who with unions. the governors ratings are very mediocre. majority say that after they hear both sides, they are against right to work and 80% say this is not -- this shouldn't be a priority at all. actually, more say they're going to hold it against legislators for voting for it than reward them for it. >> we know what we will be talking about in 2014 in the midwest. we have that clear. we know what this will be about. >> we...
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ten years of reports from the michigan state police showing that very responsible people. we are not the ones to worry about, obviously. because we are the law-abiding folks. >> soledad, if i can break in. >> i'm going to let you hop, in mark. hold on one second, steve. go ahead, we'll give you the final word tonight. >> here's what the national rifle association is doing. we're in fact not worried about people like steve. but please understand that in a number of states in this country, you don't have to have -- you don't have to pass any test, you don't have to know anything about a gun, you don't have to have a background check to carry a concealed weapon. if the nra got its way it would pass its top federal priority which would allow people who could get a permit from any state in the country or didn't have to have a permit, or happen to live in states that hand them out like candy, and they would be able to use that permit to carry a concealed weapon in any city, in any community, in any place in the united states, including new york city and times square, where we ac
ten years of reports from the michigan state police showing that very responsible people. we are not the ones to worry about, obviously. because we are the law-abiding folks. >> soledad, if i can break in. >> i'm going to let you hop, in mark. hold on one second, steve. go ahead, we'll give you the final word tonight. >> here's what the national rifle association is doing. we're in fact not worried about people like steve. but please understand that in a number of states in...
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and this is how michigan works these days. this is why rick snyder is making michigan famous for the most radical state governments in the nation. they treat democracy there like a coin toss. it's one of those coin tosses where if it's heads they win. but if it's tails you lose. do you want to flip again? what has happened in michigan so far is the most dramatic manifestation of how the republican party intends to govern in response to the last election. there's been a lot of talking about what the republicans are going to do, what the republicans might do differently now, but this isn't about talking. in michigan we are seeing what they are doing. are these guys an outlier or is this representative of what we should expect from republicans around the country and in d.c. after this election? joining us now is gene robinson, pulitzer prize-winning columnist for the "washington post" and an msnbc political analyst. mr. robinson, it is great to have you here tonight. >> it is great to be here, rachel. >> i would not have expected
and this is how michigan works these days. this is why rick snyder is making michigan famous for the most radical state governments in the nation. they treat democracy there like a coin toss. it's one of those coin tosses where if it's heads they win. but if it's tails you lose. do you want to flip again? what has happened in michigan so far is the most dramatic manifestation of how the republican party intends to govern in response to the last election. there's been a lot of talking about what...
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joining me now is professor of history at the university of michigan, and still with me sam seder, ring of fire. professor, do you agree with me that if we went right at them we could win? >> oh, definitely. lobbyists could be ignored or defeated without great consequences for the elected representative but it's the fear that the rival will get an extra benefit, a little bit more money, maybe an angry constituency will turn against you, that causes i think elected representatives to pay too much attention to single issue lobbyist and the system is set up that they expect that there will always be somebody on the other side. and lobbyists only thrive when there aren't strong voices on the other side. >> eliot: what we're saying is complacency and cowardace. congressmen, bow and bend over and are afraid to stand up and say-- >> i think for democratic politicians there is a genetic defensiveness on this issue and it over states the power that the nra had. i see this as another social issue that right now there is a perception that it helps the right, but i think in four, maybe eight years
joining me now is professor of history at the university of michigan, and still with me sam seder, ring of fire. professor, do you agree with me that if we went right at them we could win? >> oh, definitely. lobbyists could be ignored or defeated without great consequences for the elected representative but it's the fear that the rival will get an extra benefit, a little bit more money, maybe an angry constituency will turn against you, that causes i think elected representatives to pay...
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the fiscal cliff come early to the workers of michigan.
the fiscal cliff come early to the workers of michigan.
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steve doolan of the michigan coalition for responsible gun owners. he's having technical problems, we'll bring up his shot in just a moment. mark, you heard from the nra a real focus not so much even on guns, really talking about mental illness, they talked about tracking people who are mentally ill, they talked about pretty much everything, you know, not about taking away guns, but adding more guns. what did you make of their news conference today? >> you know, as somebody who's watched the organization for a while, my dad was a licensed gun dealer in colorado, i know a lot of nra members, it was a really surprising performance. the nra is usually quite smart. then again, they've never been under pressure like this. it struck me as incoherent and bordering on detached from reality. talking about things lapierre gets paid a lot of money to talk about on a regular basis. it was not the time to say things even nra members don't believe. nra members are not the washington leadership. they're two very different things. nra members want commonsense gun la
steve doolan of the michigan coalition for responsible gun owners. he's having technical problems, we'll bring up his shot in just a moment. mark, you heard from the nra a real focus not so much even on guns, really talking about mental illness, they talked about tracking people who are mentally ill, they talked about pretty much everything, you know, not about taking away guns, but adding more guns. what did you make of their news conference today? >> you know, as somebody who's watched...
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>>> right now on andrea mitchell report, the president arriving in michigan today drumming up is the for his tax the rich plan, as his aides say he thinks he and john boehner will reach an agreement to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> there is a growing group of folks that are looking at this and realizing that we don't have a lot of cards as it relates to the tax issue before year end. i mean, we have one house, that's it. the presidency and the senate and the democrats' hands. >> coming up, here congressman chris van holland, the top house democrat in these talks. >> along with bill daley, the former white house chief of staff who prided over the last round of budget negotiations. in the meantime, the anti-union fight, which is michigan. the heart and soul of the labor movement. after saying it was their best prank ever, are these crocodile tears? the aussie dj's are all apologies now that the nurse has tragically committed suicide. >> i mean, personally i'm -- >> the thought that we may have played a part in that is gut wrenching. >> and speaking of tears, "saturday night live" spoofed
>>> right now on andrea mitchell report, the president arriving in michigan today drumming up is the for his tax the rich plan, as his aides say he thinks he and john boehner will reach an agreement to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> there is a growing group of folks that are looking at this and realizing that we don't have a lot of cards as it relates to the tax issue before year end. i mean, we have one house, that's it. the presidency and the senate and the democrats' hands....
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in places like flint, michigan, and detroit, michigan. it's really tragic that if this is some kind of political gamesmanship to try to institute this right to work piece here in michigan, that it's sad. but i do think there are more than just political outcomes for the governor and for whatever wealthy cronies he has in his back pocket. at the end of the day when you have these right to work laws in place, the economic gap, the concentration of wealth in the top 2%, ceo payouts and ceo salaries can be higher when workers' wages are lower. >> julian, by our count seven 69 ten poorest states in the u.s. are right to work states. >> exactly. >> nine of the ten richest are not. >> that's true. >> why do they support this legislation claiming that it helps workers? it does the exact opposite. >> if you look at the right to work states, they generally tend to have lower wages, generally tend to have higher unemployment. the argument on the other side was economic growth, they tend to be growing faster. >> so that's the rick perry argument. >>
in places like flint, michigan, and detroit, michigan. it's really tragic that if this is some kind of political gamesmanship to try to institute this right to work piece here in michigan, that it's sad. but i do think there are more than just political outcomes for the governor and for whatever wealthy cronies he has in his back pocket. at the end of the day when you have these right to work laws in place, the economic gap, the concentration of wealth in the top 2%, ceo payouts and ceo...
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second, on behalf of i'm sure i speak for the entire board of michigan coalition of responsible gun owners we offer our sincere condolence and sympathies for the victims and their families. we are all about safety. we all want to be safe and we certainly want children to be safe. like i said last week, we just disagree on how to get there from here. to answer your question, i would point out that the shooter in the mall in oregon was confronted by a legally armed citizen who pointed his gun at the shooter and then decided not to squeeze the trigger because he was afraid of missing and hitting bystanders. he was acting very responsibly. and the next shot that that shooter fired, that the killer fired, was on himself after he was confronted with an armed citizen. so that's actually one example of a responsible gun owner using a gun to save lives. >> well, he actually didn't use the gun. i think the point, dan, unless i'm mistaken. you take it up here. but i don't think any american citizen with a legal gun has ever intervened in a mass shooting, certainly not in the last 30 or 40 years in am
second, on behalf of i'm sure i speak for the entire board of michigan coalition of responsible gun owners we offer our sincere condolence and sympathies for the victims and their families. we are all about safety. we all want to be safe and we certainly want children to be safe. like i said last week, we just disagree on how to get there from here. to answer your question, i would point out that the shooter in the mall in oregon was confronted by a legally armed citizen who pointed his gun at...
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michigan could pass a bill to make it the nation's latest right to work state. the state is bracing for a day of huge protests. in fact, two days of it. "news nation" starts in three. than that though, there's a kick to it. wahlalalalallala! smooth, but crisp. it's kind of like drinking a food that's a drink, or a drink that's a food, woooooh! [ male announcer ] taste it and describe the indescribable. could've had a v8. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] everyone deserves the gift of all day...
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michigan's republican governor is rick snyder. and today he vetoed a republican bill that would have allowed concealed weapons inside of michigan churches, day-care centers, and schools. the bill passed through the republican-led michigan legislature late on the night before the killings at newtown. literally, just a few hours before that horrific scene became the center of the entire country's attention. when the bill got to his desk, governor snyder said right away that the newtown massacre was weighing on his decision. he told the ap that public safety concerns had been heightened and deserved extra consideration following friday's mass shooting. he said, quote, what that legislation says will be looked at through the lens of all that has happened. but then governor snyder told a story. he says he doesn't usually tell. a personal story about a shooting at his dorm back when he was a law student back in 1981. that shooter in 1981 first started a fire with molotov cocktails. mr. snyder was resident in the dorm. he said he went to
michigan's republican governor is rick snyder. and today he vetoed a republican bill that would have allowed concealed weapons inside of michigan churches, day-care centers, and schools. the bill passed through the republican-led michigan legislature late on the night before the killings at newtown. literally, just a few hours before that horrific scene became the center of the entire country's attention. when the bill got to his desk, governor snyder said right away that the newtown massacre...